Heres how the sequence of events goes: An opponent targets your Grenzo, Dungeon Warden with a Path to Exile . - Yes, a budget Grenzo deck can win consistently. I started with a majority of your main creature list (minus Recruiter and maybe a few others) and added the budget land base. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden A proactive Doomsday deck that utilizes its commander to crack the piles, to win with Kiki-Jiki and Zealous Conscripts, with a variety About 4 years ago I put together a Kiki-Jiki goblin deck, and are quite familiar with his antics. I have a grenzo, dungeon warden list I've been runningcasually that I was wondering what it would take to turn it competitive, if that's even possible or worth it. He's one of only three legendary creatures with an X in the mana cost. but theres enough utility under here to spark a very interesting EDH deck for just $35.07. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden + Epitaph Golem + Any Sac Outlet + Any creature 1. Use Epitaph Golem's ability to place the creature on the bottom of the library. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden cracks the pile created by Doomsday, therefore, no card in hand is needed to manually crack the pile. Then target Grenzo with Tel-Jilad Stylus . So, take a look at the rest, and then well consider the deck choices proper. This primer is also posted to my friend's blog. (For a similar reason, I had and then cut Fires of Inventionthe one time I played it it got swiftly removed!) : Put the bottom card of your library into your graveyard. I made a deck around [[Grenzo, Dungeon Warden]] and wanted advice on cards to add or remove. He is one of only two cards (that I know of) which interact with the bottom of My answers to your questions: - It depends on the expensive decks. Use Grenzo's ability to flip the creature and reactivate the ETB. Counterspell or Force of Will. First time posting here, and I have to say snowfox, congratulations on the primer status, you made an awesome deck! You can find it here. I've played Grenzo in around 100 games in different playgroups. This is my first EDH deck. If they're built to win if uninterrupted around turn 5-7, then yes. The Stylus will place Grenzo on the bottom of your deck, and then Grenzo In response, you then activate Grenzos ability and leave it on the stack. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it. If they're all built to win if uninterrupted around turn 35, then no. - I find Grenzo very fun. @NoNeedToBragoBoutIt I suspect because Carnival is a dead flip, and we have no way to recur Enchantments in this deck. I hadn't seen Grenzo, Dungeon Warden before, and was quite intrigued by him. 3. My group plays around a 75% power level. Basic game plan revolves around activating grenzo 2. TOTAL COST: 4 If it's a creature card with power less than or equal to Grenzo's power, put it onto the battlefield Sac a creature with a strong ETB effect. 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